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Re: Concerned Gamers

Postby Fieryshoe » Wed Nov 21, 2012 4:20 pm

The amazing thing is that they don't even need a "new" game expansion if they just listened to the people in the Official Suggestions Thread and implemented a few game tweaks. I know, me personally, I would shut up for the next year if they did two things:

1) Unlock the stat caps from 1300 for all players. Why is it that the players on kong have not had their stats capped at 1300 but the dw players have? Keeping the cap on is basically telling your stronger players "LOL you have nothing else to look forward to once you near 1300, get the retirement party ready!"

2) GoD and Elf Princess encounters in Alien Invasion. They are in every other event except Mystic Wars...why can't they be in invasion? The beggar and GoD can wander into Hell and Atlantis but they can't seem to locate the Alien Invasion?

I could say alot more and go on for ages but...yeah, I have kind of given up.
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Postby Solomon Grundy » Wed Nov 21, 2012 4:41 pm

You wanna make this game profitable? Here you go. I've held these ideas for quite a while, and I am throwing them out now, free of charge.

1) Stat cap has got to go. This game is about how big and bad your character can become, not restraining it.

2) Weekly specials. Give us items like a drow ring of greed, which causes monsters to drop 10% more gold when defeated. Make it a hard item to find, say 1% MB chance or thereabouts, and at the same time, offer players an option to buy it outright for gems. There's plenty of ideas to tweak the existing items as such. How about a lucky fallen battle armor of speed +9, which boosts the GoD encounter rate by 10% or some percentage? You're not just limited to items that already exist either. How about an item that does nothing but boost your recharge rate on energy by 1 minute, making it 5 minutes per energy instead of 6. I would pay out the nose in gems for it, and I bet a lot of players would as well. Just be creative with what you already have. This shouldn't require any super coding, and no new artwork. It just takes using a little bit of imagination.

3) Here's an item that is competely new. I call it the "gambling token", though you can call it whatever. Have it drop from puzzles and mystery boxes at a 2% rate. What do you do with these tokens, you might ask? Why, you use them at the Dream World casino, which I am sure you can just latch onto any town. Demon Gates has a spot open, since it have no wall, stick it there. Take out the coins option from the Guardian buying menu and let people buy gambling tokens for gems if they so desire.

What does the casino do? It lets you use your token for a chance at a wide variety of prizes. No alien armor or fairy dust, none of that crap. Give away learning points, stat pills, genius and heroic, make the jackpot 5 points in a random stat. Make items that can ONLY be won from the casino via gamlbing tokens. I'm sure you can fill in the prize table without resorting to junk like alien armor, etc. We don't need fancy animation for any of this gambling either. Rip off the slot machine from Time World and modify it for us, easy enough.

Anyway, enough rambling from me. I doubt any of this is going to even be read, let alone considered. I'm only trying to suggest ideas to refresh and rejuvenate this game, an area that has, until now, been failed miserably in. We love this game, and we want it to succeed.
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Re: Concerned Gamers

Postby Mutt » Wed Nov 21, 2012 6:21 pm

I think I said all I needed when I started this thread but what everyone has followed up with has one important thing in common...you have to bring the addictive quality back to the game! Restrict things and you remove that quality (capped stats, white and so on). I have seen you guys do simple patches or additions like grundy is pitching...it should be easy! Keep the game simple. I know things got out of hand with players and what you can get for free and what you had to pay for...Im a prime example...but I would have never paid what I did to get a start had there not been something that draws me in here. I think the community this game has will keep it a float for you guys. We only support new players and will help them know where to spend in order to thrive here...but meet us in the middle! We wouldnt post if we didnt care.
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Re: Concerned Gamers

Postby Fieryshoe » Thu Nov 22, 2012 2:51 am

While we are here begging for things that we probably won't ever get....could we possibly get bigger guild rosters? I personally would bite the bullet and pay hundreds of gems just to get another 10-15 guild slots.
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Re: Concerned Gamers

Postby Solomon Grundy » Thu Nov 22, 2012 3:57 am

I want a pony... no no, a unicorn! I'll feed it and clean up its poop, i promise!
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Re: Concerned Gamers

Postby KingOfJesters » Sat Nov 24, 2012 6:00 pm

Well well well oh well...
This game like many others is being slowly petered out,Game devs will go where the money is they wont and dont work for free...Be it activity, players paying or free it doesnt matter either way money is what matters devs will focus on providing content for games that are sustainable it is a gamble to change anything some will complain some wont some will stay some will leave,the idea is to appeal to the majority and make paying part of the appeal or a symptom of playing,If they had a smaller regular intervals of revenue which they do through advertisements and third party offers instead of bursts of larger amounts from those all so hardcore players then the solution will present itself and the engine will begin working again the game will self sustain that is the goal,Opening everything up raising caps is only preferable to the few because if you arent buying gems and playing at an alarming rate of knots then the lvl of stats that are already capped take a loooong time to achieve already.Though it does provide a unique stand point that people with aspirations have no limits that there is nothing that cant be achieved eventually either through heavy play or cold hard cash or both.The game is basically the same mechanic it has always been random splendor where no two toons are alike or play the same, find your own fun in a game find what appeals toy YOU and enjoy it while it's there,If you want to pay then pay you dont then of course don't or do both there has always been a means in this game with free gem offers and the ability to farm stats to progress, how fast how long and how hard is dependent on who plays and how they do it it's all relative.You want people to play a game then allow them to play to have fun and to share their wins and losses,In effect allow them to be themselves in the myriad of examples people come in reflected in a toon on a game..

and mages suck.....
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Re: Concerned Gamers

Postby KingOfJesters » Sat Nov 24, 2012 6:23 pm

Thats better...

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Re: Concerned Gamers

Postby Fieryshoe » Sun Nov 25, 2012 7:25 pm

Well, I dunno about anyone else, but I didn't spend all this time and effort on this game to quietly sit back and let it fade away without opening my mouth. Many people here have given tons of suggestions that would improve the game for EVERYONE, not just the hardcore people.

I've said it a few times already, there needs to be a shift away from making XP the priority in the game and back to other things such as items or things that you can accumulate or will affect you on the leaderboard. This is why the faction wars update has been a success. You can work hard to get items and for those that care, the faction points will affect you on the leaderboard, and provide an xp bonus the higher your faction level goes. The invasion is becoming painfully boring because we are getting guilds now that won't even care if they are invaded and lose the bonus for the week. Heck, if my guild gets invaded and lose our town, I will congratulate the victor and not lose a wink of sleep. So, what is the incentive? Atlantis reeks of something fierce since it is a "high level playground" where the high levels can't kill it all by themselves since we are capped. Poseidon will be up for days and only if you really care about that first place ranking will you keep on hitting. Oh but wait, first place don't even guarantee you the best item like Fallen. Ewww.

There are so many tweaks that can be done with the game and you DON'T even need a new game update. As Solomon stated before, you can take a day just to throw in 5-8 little tweaks and watch how happy people will be. Just putting in the GoD and Elf princess enounters into the Invasion, and I wouldn't say a peep for the next six months. Allowing the guilds the option to purchase with gems an addional 10-15 guild slots....my goodness, I would never complain again for as long as I played.
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Re: Concerned Gamers

Postby KingOfJesters » Sun Nov 25, 2012 9:23 pm

Tweaks i agree if they have the time/will to apply them for whatever reason they have to do it or not,I will bring back up player controlled pvp again it has been a theme for a long time with hollow gameplay in that area get some juices flowing and some incentive,No heroic no dolls just toon on toon action in an area we can choose to either hang out in or call people out to challenge say a exp detriment to wins v losses or benefit if not exp maybe as was mentioned earlier a coin bonus for the week or 24 however they want to tweak it, the rewards should be spread to whatever the player chooses before the encounter or rounds..I agree on a little more incentive to guild war and rivalry friendly challenges grudges whatever the group as a whole bonus's should stay the same but the personal bonus's should be more of an incentive i know a few spend a long time in invasion and a little more of a bonus for the effort because it does take people longer than others to get the dmg in, just letting it run on will alone sometimes isnt enough.I like keep it coming and lets hope that the dev's of a game we have loved or do love may listen...
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Re: Concerned Gamers

Postby Mutt » Fri Jan 11, 2013 5:36 pm

Hey Wei


I got you baby!

Update for my fellow DW's

Playmage is very busy with Timeworld buuuuut
We squeezed you an update:

http://www.kongregate.com/forums/35-dre ... ts-6744038

and that says:

Update January 11, 2013
3-Year Anniversary Event
Free hourly MB during the event in addition to other bonuses.
Ends on January 14 11:59PM server time (PST).
The next expansion is currently planned for mid-February. It will include a brand new multi-tiered dungeon with new mobs and bosses, new hardcore badges, new features such as premium guild storage extension and new class avatars, and many various improvements.

So get excited!

here is a picture too...

http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-p ... 8701_n.jpg


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yeah yeah....so I was wrong...thought they were letting DW go...guess our grudging and excessive play as of late is helping :)
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