The desperate struggle to avoid 5th place in the guild war

The desperate struggle to avoid 5th place in the guild war

Postby Bigbadjohn » Wed Jan 15, 2014 2:42 pm

I've introduced a few new players to the game and one pointed out to me that in the upcoming guild war 5th place will have poorer rewards than 6th-10th! I had a look and realised that their rewards will be

4th - Energy pot + 4* card to use as fodder
5th - Revive pot + same card as above
6th-10th - 10 Gems + same card as above

As 10 gems is obviously better than Energy pot or revive pot, then why invert the reward structure.

Hopefully somebody will get sane and think about defined and absolute rewards based on a players effort in the guild war - the complexities, contradictions and anomalies are staggering!
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Re: The desperate struggle to avoid 5th place in the guild w

Postby Proton » Wed Jan 15, 2014 2:52 pm

The reward system for this guild war is just so absolutely ridiculous. It's like they received our feedback and threw everything out the window. And woke up one morning and were like hey, let's just reward the Bill Gates of Dragon Era.
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Re: The desperate struggle to avoid 5th place in the guild w

Postby DrRickso » Wed Jan 15, 2014 3:23 pm

looks like you need 20k at 4th, or 10k at 5th for the same reward... strange
so if 4th place gets 19k and 5th place gets 10k, 5th place would actually get a better reward.
if 4th and 5th come up short of their targets but 6-10 manage 5k, then 6-10 get better rewards.
yep definitely an issue there.

for that matter even the cards have issues.
40k points at 3rd place gets a better card than 40k at 2nd... 40k at 2nd is the same card as 10k at 5th???

Valkyrie is better than fire maiden- but at least have the fire maidens 6,5 & 4 instead of 5,4,4
Even the guild reward has the Valkyries ahead of the maidens, but the individual rewards have the maiden ahead.
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Re: The desperate struggle to avoid 5th place in the guild w

Postby admin » Wed Jan 15, 2014 4:42 pm

It seems you guys are not reading the member reward chart correctly. There are two brackets for each rank range, do not compare the bottom bracket (which only requires 2k points) with the top bracket that request more points.

The member reward for top bracket reads as:
1. 50 Gems, 5 Energy Pots, 7-star card (require 50k points)
2. 30 Gems, 2 Energy Pots, 7-star card (require 50k points)
3. 20 Gems, 2 Energy Pots, 6-star card (require 40k points)
4. 10 Gems, 1 Energy Pots, 5-star card (require 20k points)
5. 10 Gems, 1 Energy Pot, 4-star card (require 10k points)
6-10 10 Gems, 4-star card (require 5k) points

Member reward for bottom bracket reads (all require only 2k points)
1. 20 Gems, 2 Energy Pots, 5-star card
2. 10 Gems, 4-star card
3, 1 Energy Pot, 1 Revive, 4-star card (inferior)
4. 1 Energy Pot, 4-star card
5. 1 Revive Pot, 4-star card
6-10. 1 Revive Pot, 3-star card
11+. 3-star card
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Re: The desperate struggle to avoid 5th place in the guild w

Postby Bigbadjohn » Wed Jan 15, 2014 5:21 pm

Note to admin - I was looking at an ACTUAL likely case - not a theoretical one.

Lower level players are going to run around 40 fights - 100-200 points a go - so they will all average around 6000 points each if they stay committed - the arbitrary cut offs and steps on the guild
war rewards are just setting up strange reward distributions.

It would be good if we all earned rewards to fit the list above , but sadly I feel guild in the real world won't fit that model :cry:
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Re: The desperate struggle to avoid 5th place in the guild w

Postby Nakazawa » Wed Jan 15, 2014 7:00 pm

In my opinion rewards system Is better now, so ty devs.
Still, 20k to get gems as 4th Is a crazy amount of points. Also 10k for The 5th but guess I'll have to take it and stop complaining. At least The guild rewards are nice now, even If only 2k to get The 7*... I know that no one in top guilds will do only 2k but on the paper looks ridicolous.
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Re: The desperate struggle to avoid 5th place in the guild w

Postby Boop » Wed Jan 15, 2014 7:48 pm

To achieve the 10,000 GP and receive both parts of 5th place is fine. Anyone playing for around 3 months should be able to do so. You can't baby everyone forever.

I did awfully in my first guild war, couldn't be helped. It's a learning curve that you have to fail at initially. There is no problem with this approach in my eyes.
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Re: The desperate struggle to avoid 5th place in the guild w

Postby Odin » Wed Jan 15, 2014 9:33 pm

admin wrote:It seems you guys are not reading the member reward chart correctly. There are two brackets for each rank range, do not compare the bottom bracket (which only requires 2k points) with the top bracket that request more points.

The member reward for top bracket reads as:
1. 50 Gems, 5 Energy Pots, 7-star card (require 50k points)
2. 30 Gems, 2 Energy Pots, 7-star card (require 50k points)
3. 20 Gems, 2 Energy Pots, 6-star card (require 40k points)
4. 10 Gems, 1 Energy Pots, 5-star card (require 20k points)
5. 10 Gems, 1 Energy Pot, 4-star card (require 10k points)
6-10 10 Gems, 4-star card (require 5k) points

Member reward for bottom bracket reads (all require only 2k points)
1. 20 Gems, 2 Energy Pots, 5-star card
2. 10 Gems, 4-star card
3, 1 Energy Pot, 1 Revive, 4-star card (inferior)
4. 1 Energy Pot, 4-star card
5. 1 Revive Pot, 4-star card
6-10. 1 Revive Pot, 3-star card
11+. 3-star card


so take the example. 7k point rank 5 and 6k point rank6-10.
6-10 win.
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Re: The desperate struggle to avoid 5th place in the guild w

Postby admin » Thu Jan 16, 2014 3:38 am

We have updated the personal reward table, lower requirement for 5th top tier to 5k and improved/added reward brackets for the top 4 ranks. There should now be no scenarios where the lower rank would give better reward regardless how much points you obtain.
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Re: The desperate struggle to avoid 5th place in the guild w

Postby Nakazawa » Thu Jan 16, 2014 5:09 am

Boop wrote:To achieve the 10,000 GP and receive both parts of 5th place is fine. Anyone playing for around 3 months should be able to do so. You can't baby everyone forever.

I did awfully in my first guild war, couldn't be helped. It's a learning curve that you have to fail at initially. There is no problem with this approach in my eyes.



Sure, but I don't think my deck Is awful (all 6* and maxed level) and I don't think I'd get to 10k without using gems to fight again. But,a s I said, I won't complain, was just saying my 2 cents.
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