Attention Playmage (On Behalf of Several Guilds)

Re: Attention Playmage (On Behalf of Several Guilds)

Postby admin » Sun Feb 09, 2014 6:58 am

Bigbadjohn wrote:
Talon Lake wrote:Atleast the ability to get good cards here exists.
Keep in mind, It is a competition.. not a hand-out. Because everybody doesn't get the best doesn't mean the system is broken. -.-


It is still an internal competition between guild members - but a slight improvement. They have made sure that I could end up with zero incentive to spend money on gems - puzzling.


Drastically increasing personal reward ranks is the only alternative improvement we can provide without destroying the competitive spirit of the Guild Wars. If we went with the static guild goal method proposed, it will encourage even more super guilds from forming and will end up with even more players with no need or incentive to spend Gems.
admin
Site Admin
 
Posts: 3533
Joined: Fri Oct 16, 2009 1:06 am

Re: Attention Playmage (On Behalf of Several Guilds)

Postby DrRickso » Sun Feb 09, 2014 12:52 pm

why arent top three guilds awarded the bonus card? the stiffer competition and cost with only two guilds gerting the reward will force people to abomdon guilds and just exploit the member rewards.
User avatar
DrRickso
 
Posts: 195
Joined: Thu Dec 12, 2013 9:12 am

Re: Attention Playmage (On Behalf of Several Guilds)

Postby admin » Sun Feb 09, 2014 1:36 pm

DrRickso wrote:why arent top three guilds awarded the bonus card? the stiffer competition and cost with only two guilds gerting the reward will force people to abomdon guilds and just exploit the member rewards.


Because with the new setup, we will already be issuing more 7* cards than all previous Guild Wars. If your guild members aren't willing to compete together with your guild and abandons their guild mates for a easier way to earn boss card, then they were may have been in the guild just for the ride in the first place. They would also be giving up the chance to get two cards and possibly higher guild bonuses. We also aren't anticipating more than a couple players that would end up in 6th place with over 50k and not in the top 2 guilds, if any players at all. We may increase number of guilds that can get the card when the guild war boss rotates so more people can get them.
admin
Site Admin
 
Posts: 3533
Joined: Fri Oct 16, 2009 1:06 am

Re: Attention Playmage (On Behalf of Several Guilds)

Postby Lickzy » Sun Feb 09, 2014 8:53 pm

You're not anticipating more than 5 people per guild getting over 50k GP???

Last guild War, Obscurity had 16 people with over 50k.

Your logic is flawed.

If all players with over 50k got 7 star cards, you'd accomplish a lot more financially and loyalty-wise.

See how your bottom line looks after this particular guild war and maybe you'll see the folly of your ways.
username: lickzy
guild: obscurity
player id: acencd
User avatar
Lickzy
 
Posts: 107
Joined: Sat Oct 26, 2013 9:02 am

Re: Attention Playmage (On Behalf of Several Guilds)

Postby Proton » Sun Feb 09, 2014 8:58 pm

All you basically did is potentially cause strife within a guild. All the suggestions the top guilds made were just thrown out the window. Sigh, don't know why I even bother.
Proton
 
Posts: 38
Joined: Thu Jan 02, 2014 12:55 am

Re: Attention Playmage (On Behalf of Several Guilds)

Postby Moxious » Sun Feb 09, 2014 11:24 pm

A couple of players only outside of top 2 guilds with more than 50k gp... I will be interested to see what 3rd placed guild has outside of top 5 with 50k+. I think it very likely to be more than a couple at any rate. Anyway good luck to all and happy warring. :)
Moxious
 
Posts: 42
Joined: Tue Jan 28, 2014 4:14 am

Re: Attention Playmage (On Behalf of Several Guilds)

Postby admin » Mon Feb 10, 2014 2:33 am

The third place in the last war only had 2 players outside of the top five with over 50k.
admin
Site Admin
 
Posts: 3533
Joined: Fri Oct 16, 2009 1:06 am

Re: Attention Playmage (On Behalf of Several Guilds)

Postby DrRickso » Mon Feb 10, 2014 9:41 am

The issue wasn't how many people were at 50k who didn't finish in top 5, the issue was how far over the top players were beyond the 50k to secure their spots given that there were only two top war rewards. Opening up member rewards was great- and it will naturally create more people aiming for 50k... last war- why would most others aim for 50k if they knew their reward wasn't going to be there- especially the guilds that knew they wouldn't finish 1-2?

This war- top 5 people from each guild get a 7* (if they are over 50k)... so IF 2nd and 3rd place battle the whole way and each entire guild contributes- you get to reap the benefits but 25-27 people in that 3rd place guild get screwed out of the card. Also, the top 5 ppl have to pay even more than 50k to secure their spots- and again, people in the 3rd place guild will have spent a lot in the hopes of an 8* only to wind up with a 7 that could have been easier to achieve in a smaller guild.

I get that it's a business for PM, but it's a game to the rest of us... keeping only two guild rewards which drives up the cost of earning bonus cards (that have been repeatedly stated as not meant to be the best cards in the game) will discourage many from spending. If you are aware of the numbers of people that achieve a certain amount (ie The third place only had 2 players outside of the top five with over 50k), why not cater to that number and reward three spots considering they likely make up a majority of the supporting members of this game?

Finally, offering more boss cards this war than any other war sounds great and it's nice to see better rewards considering the gem purchases often do not equate to something useful (recruits, shop refreshes, etc), but it will lead to more people spending to achieve 50k, so it's not like PM is losing out here. My suggestion is, you're set to make more off of more guilds this war due to member rewards- couldn't you afford to loosen the noose on the guild rewards and make top 3 instead of 2 get the bonus?

Sorry for the long rant- but I'm disappointed after having spent a lot more than I should have the last few wars and was expecting a better solution for this upcoming one.
User avatar
DrRickso
 
Posts: 195
Joined: Thu Dec 12, 2013 9:12 am

Re: Attention Playmage (On Behalf of Several Guilds)

Postby Odin » Mon Feb 10, 2014 9:58 am

Loosen up from 2 to 3, 4th guild will come here and rant on :)
But these kind of competition will always leave somebody in middle of nowhere with a puny 7* in hand and probably furious rage :) But thats the beauty of gambling. Play on !
User avatar
Odin
 
Posts: 86
Joined: Fri Nov 08, 2013 10:15 pm
Location: Olympus to find ZUES

Re: Attention Playmage (On Behalf of Several Guilds)

Postby DrRickso » Mon Feb 10, 2014 10:42 am

IIRC- the Lucifer war rewarded the top 4 guilds and no one complained about that... only the member rewards sucked since it was primarily dark maidens.
User avatar
DrRickso
 
Posts: 195
Joined: Thu Dec 12, 2013 9:12 am

PreviousNext

Return to Dragon Era Discussion

cron