Attention Playmage (On Behalf of Several Guilds)

Attention Playmage (On Behalf of Several Guilds)

Postby Lickzy » Tue Jan 28, 2014 12:03 pm

Let's cut to the chase. We can all agree that the current guild war reward design has some serious flaws. It sees a sample group size forking out tons of money for a "chance" to take 1st or 2nd, while others never bother to spend because they have no chance of taking home a 7 star card to begin with. So how can we level this playing field, enhance the guild war experience, maintain some competition and continue to make the game profitable?

Give EVERY guild an obtainable target EVERY war to secure themselves a 7 star card. So what is an obtainable Target? That's debatable, but after having spoken to several other guilds, 25k per person sounds reasonable. So 32 person guild would need to generate 800k in Guild Points in order to reward their team with 7 star cards. Top 2 people per guild with over 50k still eligible for second 7 star card.

What this will accomplish is:
a) No one feels totally ripped off when they spend big money and don't take 1st or 2nd in the war overall
b) Everyone has the ability to secure 7 star cards for their team
c) Top 10 guilds (Even lower) will be encouraged to spend to hit the 800k target, spending more money on gems
d) Overall guild war will be more profitable as there will be MULTIPLE revenue streams, as opposed to the same gang of people that dump their cash into the wars

We believe this type of dynamic will enhance the overall guild war experience, encourage participation, drive revenue and enhance the morale amongst players.

What do you say Playmage?
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Re: Attention Playmage (On Behalf of Several Guilds)

Postby Midas » Tue Jan 28, 2014 1:04 pm

So Obscurity feel that they would loose next GW and try to eliminate race for first place plus secure guaranteed reward for themselves?)
That's veeery interesting.

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Re: Attention Playmage (On Behalf of Several Guilds)

Postby Lickzy » Tue Jan 28, 2014 1:16 pm

Midas wrote:So Obscurity feel that they would loose next GW and try to eliminate race for first place plus secure guaranteed reward for themselves?)
That's veeery interesting.

*Take out popcorn and prepare to watch epic drama.


Sorry Midas but you're wrong… and stupid…. as usual. A conversation took place between the leaders of several top guilds and high level players who are active in the community and understand the game and mechanics. That's probably why you were oblivious to the conversation.

This isn't Obscurity's idea but its a way to make the game more enjoyable and profitable.

Now go cause drama somewhere else, Adults are talking.
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Re: Attention Playmage (On Behalf of Several Guilds)

Postby fire ice » Tue Jan 28, 2014 1:29 pm

Midas wrote:So Obscurity feel that they would loose next GW and try to eliminate race for first place plus secure guaranteed reward for themselves?)
That's veeery interesting.

*Take out popcorn and prepare to watch epic drama.


This was bounced around a group of about 50 members, not the sole decision of obscurity or lickzy.
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Re: Attention Playmage (On Behalf of Several Guilds)

Postby DrRickso » Tue Jan 28, 2014 1:30 pm

Midas-
This is an idea between the top guilds as a way to prevent a few users from overspending and driving up the cost of war for everyone. Obscurity has been in first each war because of the high concentration of high level players who all contribute, not just a select few. Maybe another guild decides to break the bank next war to play with the big boys, then the costs of the top guilds go up just to put them back in their place and reclaim the position they were going to get anyway. Seems silly to waste your own money only to cause everyone else to do the same.

This has nothing to do with one guild btw- I have friends in other guilds and it sucks for them to come up short when they support the game as much as anyone else. Being in the top guild, I can objectively say the current system is broken- and we are trying to come up with suggestions for the good of the entire DE community.

While I haven't seen any solution that I totally agree with, the fact is the current system is wasting everyone's money for very little reward and PM needs to step in to prevent Gem War 2.
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Re: Attention Playmage (On Behalf of Several Guilds)

Postby DrRickso » Tue Jan 28, 2014 1:36 pm

Another suggestion (or add-on) in order to preserve competition between guilds:

how about guild rewards are gems and member rewards are the cards per lickzys post?

putting gem rewards on guild places gives people some friendly competition without getting cutthroat, and also forces people to manage their personal spending since a fixed gem reward should prevent one person from spending more gems than the reward is worth. while it sounds like it would detract from overall revenue, card bonuses for members listed in the first post would encourage spending across all members and guilds as opposed to the select few.

While how to award the second 7 card is debatable in this scenario, I personally wouldn't care if there wasn't a second boss card awarded since you are going to rerun the same bosses anyway. No second 7* makes the rerun of bosses more valuable, and preserves some of the rarity before the rerurn.
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Re: Attention Playmage (On Behalf of Several Guilds)

Postby Midas » Tue Jan 28, 2014 2:16 pm

If you say so - ok, lets wait for PM response.
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Re: Attention Playmage (On Behalf of Several Guilds)

Postby slacks » Tue Jan 28, 2014 2:28 pm

The team target is a great idea. Coming from a small guild, most of the members in mine won't hit the 25K mark, but it encourages team members to collaborate and work together more - in some cases the top players will be able to offset the lows scores of newer players. It also gives a viable goal for guilds who are tens of thousands out of contention and give incentive to build their guild and work their way up.

Spending cash on gems to reach 50k for a low-level player are daunting, but 25K is attainable for a mid-goal

It's been amazing to see the responsiveness by Playmage to its community and I'm curious to see how they respond.
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Re: Attention Playmage (On Behalf of Several Guilds)

Postby xXimmortalXx » Tue Jan 28, 2014 7:16 pm

+1 +2 +3 admin please say OK :lol:
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Re: Attention Playmage (On Behalf of Several Guilds)

Postby Midas » Wed Jan 29, 2014 6:40 am

Yeah, it's good to create more rewards in Members slot.

In last GW only two players want to spend gems and get 50k reward. This is decided in first few hours of GW.
All 30 others just get that they can and live with it.
So adding good 5*-6* star rewards for top-10 in each guild will boost their activity.
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