Weird mechanics noticed in FB version

Weird mechanics noticed in FB version

Postby Jorge » Wed Dec 10, 2014 5:39 pm

Having played the mobile version of the game for over a year, I'd like to comment about a couple of mechanics that I noticed were different in the facebook version and did indeed feel weird. I don't know if they are intentional but let my expand.

1. I always do 1 damage minimum to the jewel dragons in normal level. It doesn't matter if I hit them with 100 or 2000 damage, if I don't hit them for enough damage to bypass their armor, 1 damage is always dealt. I don't know if this could be some sort of oversight, of if for some reason you intended this behaviour on purpose. I can only give you feedback on that specific stage of jewel dragons, since I haven't yet faced another enemy with enough armor to check it.

2. 1-2 chest symbols drop a lot. In mobile version it was clear there was some sort of mechanic to prevent chests from dropping too much unless they were a total of three. You could notice it wasn't random because the drop rate of a single chest was much lower than the drop rate of any regular symbol such as earth. However, in fb version I'm very often getting a combined 2-4 chest between normal chest and gold chest (like 1-1, 2-0, 2-1, or even 2-2), which spoils the rest of the panel.

I've written down the results of my last run so that you can check it out (stage 12.4):

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This was written simultaneously turn by turn while in auto spin mode. Also, while doing this I also noticed that apart from chests this applies to special spin coins too.

Normal chest - Gold chest
2-0
0-1
0-2
2-2
*3-1
0-1
2-2
2-0
2-1
0-2
2-2
2-1
0-0
0-0
1-1
0-1
0-2
*3-0
1-0
1-1
1-2
0-2
1-1
1-1
0-2
0-1
1-1
1-1
0-0
1-1
1-0
*3-1
1-1
0-2
0-0
2-0
2-0
1-0
2-1
2-0
*3-0
2-2
2-1
2-1
2-2
1-0
2-0
0-1
1-1
2-2
2-1
0-1
0-0
1-0
0-1
0-0
0-0
2-2
2-1
1-2
1-2
2-1
2-0
1-2
1-1
0-0
0-0
0-2
0-2
1-2
0-1
2-0
0-2
2-1
0-2
0-2
0-0
1-1
1-2
1-0
1-1
0-1
1-2
0-0
0-0
0-0
1-1
2-1
0-2
1-2
0-2
0-0


0 normal chests: 36
1 normal chest: 27
2 normal chests: 25
0 gold chests: 30
1 gold chest: 34
2 gold chests: 28
I'm sure that anybody that has played mobile can back me up that these drop rates aren't normal in mobile version.


Again, not sure if this is all intentional, but just wanted to report it.
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Re: Weird mechanics noticed in FB version

Postby pmsupport » Wed Dec 10, 2014 9:05 pm

Hi Jorge, thanks for the report. We set up that if you can't bypass the monster's defense, you will deal 1 damage instead of 0 on the facebook version on purpose. I have forwarded your second problem to the QA team to double check. The same slot machine mechanism (including chest symbol appearing rate) is used on the facebook version and mobile version, but we will check if the chest symbols do indeed appear more often on facebook version and if there is any problem that is causing this. BTW, we don't have a mechanism to prevent chest symbol to appear on mobile version. The chest symbol appearing rate has been set up lower than the regular symbol's on mobile version and facebook version to make sure that the regular symbols appear more often.
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Re: Weird mechanics noticed in FB version

Postby Elayna » Tue Feb 03, 2015 1:15 pm

Any news to shed light on the second situation, regarding gold chest's appearing in 1's and 2's a lot more frequent? I've jumped on the mobile version and can clearly see this being true. Going 60 turns or more with multiple 1 or 2 gold chest's chowing up (Sometimes 3-4 turns in a row showing 2 gold chest's), but highly unlikely for that 3rd gold chest showing up.
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Re: Weird mechanics noticed in FB version

Postby pmsupport » Tue Feb 03, 2015 9:24 pm

Hi Elayna, I have confirmed with the developers that the frequent appearing of chest symbols does not affect your original chances to get identical symbols. When you don't get 3 or more identical symbols in a line, different symbols (including chest symbols, free spin symbol, elemental symbols of other colors) are used in that line. On Facebook version, chest symbols are just more frequently used that way. Your chance of getting 3 or more identical symbols each spin is still the same as the mobile players'.
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Re: Weird mechanics noticed in FB version

Postby Elayna » Tue Feb 03, 2015 10:02 pm

Thank you very much for clearing that up pmsupport c:

Without knowing this, the frequent spawns of chest's in 1's and 2's would make it seems unreasonable, nearly "rigged" tbh. With this knowledge it's much more manageable to not see it as a "rigged" spin system, but in fact- as you stated "chest symbols are just more frequently used that way", with no connection to chances of getting 3 identical chest's.
Why does the Facebook version have an increase to irrelevant chest's instead of other symbols (That therefore would not be 3 of anyways) is beyond me. Seeing as how it makes the spin system look somewhat rigged, when compared to the Mobile version.

At any rate, thank you again. This information has given me a better insight of the spin system, as well as mentally reducing stress when having these frequent chest's show up :p
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